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if people for political reasons want to do the right thing, that's better. >> so that, i think, to me is a big question. if you have real substantive concerns with some of the things that have been revealed, with some of the secrecy behind it. now the next plot point in this story is, is there going to be an actual coalition formed on capitol hill to have some congressional action? and that does depend on good faith. right. >> it depends if you can form coalitions with republicans that care about this and are not just grandstanding. >> there's a wing of the republican party which has been a fairly small wing, so-called libertarians. i think they're some war more in the current congress than the last few congresses who do care about these issues. they've been less than consistent. they cared less when george bush was in office than they do now. i'm glad to have their help and

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