reason why they should know. as far as what nbc news knows, we've seen the draft report that ann mentioned earlier and we're sort of very carefully trying to ferret out who it is that's talking. >> are we going to read in the paper tomorrow about anyone else in hillary's world, her counsel or anyone else over there at state department being involved in any interference here in these investigations? >> probably not. the main development from the senior state department today was an on-the-record denial from patrick kennedy both hillary clinton's undersecretary for management, the guy who basically runs the floor and now john kerry's undersecretary for management that there was any interference, any improper diversion of these cases basically anything at all. and that is also what the state