with us. you just heard what james clapper told exclusively to andrea mitchell. what's your action. he used the word hyperbole, do you believe it is hyperbole? >> no question. they have used everything they could think of for programs in terms of investigation and the fact that there's scandals. always has been hist tore clay close line to have to make decisions between national securities and the freedom of the press. quite frankly, i don't think anyone was disturbed, the president made it clear, and i don't know that he has, that we have to do these things and it was cleared through the congressional intel jens committee to accumulate this information, not to listen in, but to accumulate this information because that is the best way for us to deter rearist plots, now, if there's some report they're wants to get a