of all the stuff we've done since 9/11 where we've had a lot of success over the years if trying to find some of the al qaeda operatives and others if places like afghanistan, iraq, pakistan and so forth. bringing the debate back home, again, we're talking about american citizens, i do agree strongly with michelle on at least one point. we need to protect people's rights from abuse of government. i don't think the abuses have happened yet, but i think they could. the safeguards are not yet clear enough. the rules are not yet clear enough. that's where the obama administration has to direct its attention. >> michael o'hanlon, michelle richardson. thank you both very much. coming up, where's the outrage over all this government snooping? this is an unusual republican story. republicans are praising the program as are most democrats. that has some on the left frustrated. also, republicans are trying to kill obama care in the crib. in fact, its limited popularity is slipping under an assault of negative ads. today president obama made his case for the law and argued it's already working. and you stay classy,