the problem is that it made a violent turn. and it caught all these folks that do this stuff, it caught them off guard and frankly, ran over them. and this is mike bettes's -- not mike bennett, but mike bettes's truck is smashed. this is where the double fatality occurred. >> you said, mike, it looked like it -- >> coverage from kfor. affiliate of nbc doing excellent coverage of this. repeating the news they just broke there. this is according to kfor in oklahoma city. a double fatality on interstate 40. interstate 40 has been shut down. reporters are describing a scene that looks like a demolition derby was the phrase they used on interstate 40. numerous vehicles overturned. a lot of debris on the road and now sadly they are describing