many of them? give me a break! the idea of the moral sankt moany, i find it crazy, hi pock ra si, people do things, if they do bad things, they should be held to account, but people are human beings. >> i was speaking to business leaders the other day, big businesses, they don't want a mayor who's a laughing stock. >> i think that's part of it, too. >> chris, it was over and over again, the denials, the name calling. >> i agree, i agree. i agree, i think the lying and credibility is his biggest, that's the biggest bridge he has to cross, msnbc's alex wagner and ariel louis. thank you very much. the case of a gruesome 2011 triple homicide in massachusetts has gone cold. now one of the murderers was tamerlan. now his accomplice, a man shot to death today in florida by an fbi agent.