as joan said, they sought too much. they didn't do it in the right way. they insist that they took all reasonable measures which is what the justice department guidelines call for to find the information they wanted before they did what they did. we're taking that at face value. i'm not necessarily ready to take their word for it, number one. >> they also blew up the reporting ability of the ap. right now if you or someone out there who is a source who knows about, say, a serial sexual predator on an army base, for instance, and you want to blow the whistle on them and you don't want it to be traced back to you, you got to think twice before you're going to call up your local ap reporter. >> i can't imagine any possible justification for basically loitering on the street corner, so to speak, by getting all the toll records of phone calls from the ap's main phone lines in the congressional press galleries. >> the congressional press