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>> and washington anchor for bbc world news america catty kay here in new york looking fantastic and in washington editorial director of the huffington post media group and msnbc political analyst howard fineman and another howard former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. good to have you all onboard this morning. we're going to go through the scandals. i want to get to the college story. i want to put a question out to howard dean who has been at the center of the storm at times and also helped analyze it. i'm just wondering, howard, if a couple months from now we'll be looking back and making fun of ourms for going deep into the weeds on interagency battles and that really people right now are thinking about other things, getting their kids out of school, moving on to the summer. there is no election here as a backdrop. are we sort of -- i don't know -- kind of drilling down on this to the point where people will tune out?

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