and nancy cooke is the economic and fiscal policy correspondent. welcome to you both. >> thanks. >> it seems as if this is basically about the same thing. which is how do the republican party look like they're in touch with the average american? you focus, nancy, on the middle class stuff. >> yeah. so, really, there's this debate right now. a bunch of intellectual policy and strategists that are really focused on the republicans winning the white house in 2016. the house republicans and those in power, look, if we want to win the white house, we need to talk about things that middle class americans care about. education, you know, lower taxes, things like that. but house republicans are still really focused at this point on tax reform and budget cuts. things like that that it's harder to translate and talk about to the average american. >> they're not winning the tax issue. if you look, always split down the middle. it seems that some people arguing that they're too, almost view taxes as an economic crutch. >> i think that's part of it.