issues. now, i know in kansas we want to be able to have our guns. we want to be able to have the assurance that they're available and in a legal way. but i don't think that the routine kansas citizens are paying any attention to nullification. they're not talking about it. >> yeah, it is. pinpoint does seem that there is an aspect here that feels like there's sort of a national conservative movement that's playing out in states where conservatives are in position to put this stuff through to legislature. it's an amazing trend to me, a trend that's sort of -- it's been revived and unique to the obama era. i'll see if it extends past the obama era. that's a longer term question. i want to thank kristen, david hailey from kansas, thomas frank from "harper's" magazine, and sheila frum. marriage equality supporters are on their way to another state and this time it's thanks to their opponents. that's next. with more moisturizers than seven bottles of the leading body wash.