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for, you know, that kind of of the senators, the republican punishment. senators were again it. i wonder how in the political ronald reagan, george bush came arena you can balance that sort out and said it was socialized of instinct that people have if medicine. one of the most popular programs it was my wife, if it was my in american history. when you take the long view of child with, you know, especially obama care there's no doubt this in cases where it's clear cut. will be a popular program. kirk what would you -- it will save lives. >> i have to say trying a case one last thing. when you hear the stories people through politics is really not like barbara stakes who is from the way to go. bucks county, pennsylvania, 58 you know, we have to really years of age who had a seizure watch ourselves when we try disorder. she basically lost her job and cases from a bully pulpit, so to health insurance. she's not eligible yet for medicare. she's one of the folks that will speak. probably mr. dukakis lost he was fall through the gaps that will now be covered if the states do in a tank running across the the right thing because the road. i've seen all the willie horton point earlier -- passed the 2012 ads. my thing is we cannot go forward elections and the supreme court. and put people in the limelight the supreme court had a huge when we don't know the facts yet hole when it comes to medicaid about a case. you know, you're talking about, expansions. states can opt-out. when we're really sure about >> you lay that history there something. i had five identification and say medicare was eventually witnesses positively identify me accepted by everybody in the political system. as the last person. are we sure we're on that same

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