and stimulate the economy is through immigration reform which the president spoke about again. if we legalize 11 million people who want to be here as workers, that's the sooner they can make more money, pay more in taxes, spend more on goods and services, help millions of american workers in the middle class and in the upper class do their jobs better. that is a stimulus plan right there, isn't it? >> yeah, i think it is. and interestingly, that's one piece of legislation where some of big business is in fact in favor of it. at least parts of it. silicon valley, they want the high-tech engineers and so forth to be able to i emigrate. if you look at it from 20011. if you look at the lack of likelihood of a grand budget deal. if you look at the likely, lack