you've got to be very careful. probably the most popular person in the country is oprah winfrey. i remember every time -- she was always talking about her weight issue. people were always rooting for her. you know, bob? people root for people. it's time every time you go by a krispy kreme. five guys hamburger. every time you see a really good cinnamon bun, you go, okay, i'll start the diet in an hour after this baby. >> i haven't had a cinnamon bun in about five years. let me tell you -- >> they're really good. >> a lot of cliches about presidential politics. you and i know that. michael knows it. one of them was age. ronald reagan disposed of that. another one was the idea you can't have an overweight president. sure, we haven't really had one since william howard taft. i think chris christie could have won votes as a guy who was heavy because he has a remarkably uncanny sense of how to communicate with people. >> doesn't he? >> i don't happen to agree with him. i wouldn't have voted for him. >> isn't it something? i'm not sure you wouldn't.