you don't ever know who wants to kill you for your position. i have done a lot of things. and but when i was young, i thought that was the norm. i got wrapped up in prostitution, drug ring, guns, the fast money, and before i knew it my life was just downhill. one thing led to another. next thing i know i am on drugs. >> gaffney says he was drawn to the aryan brotherhood because they shared a foundation. >> i grew up with the hate, hate in my home, of black people, black people, black people. that's all i knew. and seeing that growing up, i thought, hey, man, that's what it was supposed to be like. well instead of turning to the kkks, i turned to the aryan brotherhood. i look at it like if you are going to do something with a hood over your face, no sense in doing it. you stand up for what you believe in. coming up -- >> it is one of our interview questions when they first come