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and as joy said, this part of the world this r that we're talking about, when dagestan and chechnya are not the main thing at issue here in immigration reform. let's face it. as joy says, it is mostly about south of the border. it is about mostly mexico and latin america. and it's time to do something about that. i think most people in the republican party and the democratic party agree on that. i'm just saying that in terms of general attitudes towards immigrants, one thing can get conflated with the other. and that's the danger here. >> let me play devil's advocate here, because we just had david remnick on who knows russia. he said just because a person has sort of radical views, jihadist views and doesn't do anything, there is nothing wrong with that you don't commit the guy to jail. fair enough. but do you let him in the country? that's a question. >> and chris, you know, i think this does bring up questions about our asylum system, and about our relationship with

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