and 45% think that north korea, the dprk, is an imminent threat to the united states. we're not -- we're not being educated about how this works. either by the media or by the politicians. >> so if tensions are high, obviously the -- secretary of state kerry went there to lower tensions and they talk about a diplomatic solution, there is a familiarity to tensions and diplomatic offramps. people talk about offramps. su, as someone who studied north korea, what is the offramp here? how do we end up in a place where we aren't at this pitch state of crisis? >> what's going to happen is they will probably do this missile test and we will go back to the u.n. but tensions will come down after the u.s. south korea tour to exercises ending on april 30. >> joint military exercise that happens every spring? >> yes. >> and the now south korean president said let's try to meet and negotiate to see if we can open the complex so after the