i don't know the circumstances. you made your statement. he's made his. but no one is denying what was said on the tape. and, in fact, on the tape, senator mcconnell said to his campaign staff, well, let me -- let me play for people what he said. >> i assume most of you have played the game. the game whac-a-mole? this is the whac-a-mole period of the campaign. >> whac-a-mole. that's where you whac-a-mole. he's endorsing these tactics. what i'm saying is let the investigation go where it might. but, i mean, you're talking about whac-a-mole when you're discussing someone's mental health, their fate? i mean, this is -- >> what's interesting to me in listening to this, is it's a classic standard oppo research presentation. his campaign went to somebody, said give me your -- go dig up all this oppo research on ashley