>> angela amerimerkel. >> merkel, of course. i met her briefly one time before she went on to speak to the house of representatives, to the congress. she was very nice. i walked in the room thinking here's the iron lady, i better be careful. she's the nicest person in the world. so is dennis, her husband. that's still the problem, challenge for women. how can you be tough and a leader? the same time not tick off some guys out there which is always the challenge? doug? you're a guy. you got to answer this. >> well, so her name was, you know, margaret roberts was her maiden name. unlike hillary clinton or eleanor roosevelt, it wasn't a husband who promoted her. she was working class. lived above a grocery store. really made her own way into things. and even the iron lady, i mean, originally the task network and the soviet union used it as a criticism of her and mocked her. she embraced that iron lady motif. yet she always had the learned