affect them. opportunity employment rate does not count them. they have dropped out looking for work. that's the problem. it is a big picture problem. when you look at certain sub groups within the bureo of labor and statistics, for example, among african-americans, unemployment is 13%. >> 13.3%. >> young people, 15% plus. >> april, to raul's point, you have the form he, i guess, he was the founder of b.e.t. coming out and taking some heat. he said, listen, the african-american employment, 13%. if that was a nationwide number, president obama would be in the hot seat. we would not exist in a society. we wouldn't just take it if that was the overall unemployment rate. however, this is not a high employment rate that is exclusive to the obama administration. the african-american unemployment rate has always been unreasonably high and ignored, by the way. >> is that an excuse to ignore it? the bottom line is as you said, to your point, back in 1963 when