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government shutdowns, can't get to the decision point of where we have a budget or what not, so that has been discussed. we are aware of those kinds of issues. >> jeff, at the end of the article, you say that the government does waste a lot of money, that the government does need to tighten its belt. i wonder if this is what it looks like. a 27% pay cut for you. what your response is to that. >> well, yeah, like i told john, it would be intellectually dishonest to whine when the cut is me. i'm certainly not complaining for myself. while i agree that certainly, that's ways that spending needs to be curtailed, i may be one of the one of the -- casualties, so

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