immigration reform. the most hardline elements of the party. it swims in the same stream. evangelical christians with by some estimates 50% of republican primary voters. to the extent the party looks extreme, a lot of that is due to this base that comes a lot from the christian right. discarding these folks is not an option. i mean, years ago i interviewed matthew staber of the liberty council. he said, look, we're at the republican party as long as they're with us. we have an option which is to stay home. it's not as if they have nowhere to go. they're not going to vote democratic. they may not come out. evangelicals do believe it wasn't them who cost mitt romney the election or john mccain the election. in their view of it, those two candidates didn't talk about culture conservative issues and lost because evangelicals stay home. republicans do have some risk. >> hogan, i don't know if you picked a horse yet, i hope you do because we'd like to have you on to talk about it. who do you think could win the