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>> in all the press, which has all been good press, i would say, knock on wood, about your launch, everybody says you and i are so much alike, peas in a pod, and you having this 8:00 show, shows this. we approach how to do this work very differently. our shows will be very different. one of the reasons i like talking to you about big, difficult problems that don't have easy answers like this, i feel like you have a good multi-varied approach towards difficult things. you look at the va backlog, getting this renewed attention. you look at the fact there's no bipartisan disagreement on this whatsoever yet it is getting worse, what do you think is the way out of it? >> i think there's a few fascinating things. one is it makes us think what is the actual political power veterans in our society have because in some ways the proof is in the pudding, right? there's the rhetorical honor they are granted and then there's the actual power that they have. the way you look at power in a

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