relationship between newtown killer adam lanza, nor between nancy lanza with the national rifle association. firearms instructors issue nra certificates to people who complete certified classes, regardless of nra membership. joining me now in an exclusive interview, democratic governor of connecticut, dannel malloy and msnbc's joy reid. governor, what did -- what do you think the release of the new information that we now have, the details that we now have about what happened in connecticut, what do you think about how that information helps frame where the issue stands now? >> well, listen. we need universal background checks as the president said. 90% of the american public supports it. but we also need to get rid of these kinds of weapons. they are assault weapons. they are used and designed to kill people. that's what that weapon was brought to sandy hook school for. and it was brought with large capacity magazines which until