that terminology -- "between newtown killer adam lanza nor between nancy lanza. with the national rifle association. reporting to the contrary is reckless, false and defamatory." and, yet, these are some of the items that have been recovered, according to the court documents. correct? >> reporter: right. well, look, that statement speaks to a member relationship. and there are lots of other ways adam and nancy lanza could have gotten nra certificates. there's gun safety courses. there's gun training courses. all of which if you go on the nra website offer some sort of certificate. i press the nra this afternoon. did they have a record of any sort of -- any sort of training course or other kind of course that would have gotten adam lanza a certificate? they say they really didn't answer the question. they said they didn't have a