go- the state of michigan and could mean something like 2300 low income kids throughout michigan in head start programs could be pushed out? everybody is talking about the importance of early childhood education and whether or not we can afford to have those children pushed out. we're going to spend a lot of time today talking about that. what impact that and other measures of finances have on educating children here in detroit and throughout the state of michigan. if you can join us, chris, we're going to be streaming this live on education nation.com. people can check us out and see what's happening here. maybe hopefully we'll even find out some things that they are doing positive here in detroit and in michigan that could help people across the country as well. >> and, rehema, one other quick thing, i know you're going to sit down with the republican governor of michigan, rick schneider. any indication -- i know he appointed an emergency manager in detroit. what has he said about education