creating the path, that is making the line, because right now there isn't one. that's what we have -- >> i guess the complication is what will that path look like? and how many sort of requirements will there be along the way? we've got the bipartisan group of senators who are working on something. they say they're on track to unveil something, maybe the end of this month, early april. what do you think that might look like? >> i think right now what the senate is favoring ten-year wait for naturalization before you can apply -- three years for citizenship while the white house, they have -- in the leaked report they favored 8-5, either way, you're looking at about 13-year period, which is considerable and the polling among latinos from latino decisions shows that latinos want a waiting period of -- and this is voters. they want a waiting period of roughly five years. so there are many parameters to be worked out here. but the fact is that conservatives are coalescing around this issue, it seems to