ii. i do think there are religious leaders and political leaders, and they really often intertwine. i wrote a book about the role of god and religion in foreign policy. while we believe in separation of church and state, which i do. i think the moral suasion, that the head of the church can deal with the issues of the day, the moral decisions i think plays a larmg role. but there are many things that i interfere in. the choice of the pope wouldn't be one of them. >> well, "prague winter" now out in paper. a wonderful bock. thank you very much. always a real pleasure. >> thank you. and coming up next, budget politics, with democratic campaign committee chair congressman steve vault. and we verse are watching the vatican for the smokes. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. "i'm only human" ] [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans.