past the house caucus. so i'm not sure where this moves us. yes, it's a plan, but it seems, again, to be as the democratic proposal most likely will be, as well, more of a political document than a negotiating -- something that can lead into a negotiation and real compromise. >> and jon meacham, this really is, this is a more of a political document than an economic document. which these budgets usually are. they let americans know where the party stands and that's why i look forward to the democrats putting their budget on the house floor, on the senate floor for the first time in four years and then, again, we can have the debate in the open. >> yeah. >> and andrea's put her finger on it. this is, i think, if you look at the numbers, it's about health care spending, it's about medicare, medicaid. governors medicaid takes up a third or more of their budgets. this is about health care spending.