too, because they are not satisfied with the sort of talent pool that they are getting in. they are not satisfied with what the state is doing around education and so i see a lot of big companies starting to liaison with community colleges and try to tell them, look. these are the skills we need. you have to churn out the workers and change the way you're running your programs. >> the answer to the we because i've had a lot of heart to heart talks with men and women in their 40s and 50s are in a middle management, senior middle management and they are forced out of a job. i say to them honestly, it's over in the corporate world. start to become an entrepreneur. >> that is brutal. >> no, it's the most humane thing you can say to them. it's time for a hard right turn. because as a 50-year-old, you know, vp at an advertising agency when now they are getting rid of that level and young people, the most decent thing i can say to them you had a great run in corporate run. now find that entrepreneur because nobody will take care of