it was only imposed in 2005 or 2006. >> well, representative adam schiff has introduced legislation which would undo the worst of this law. and it basically would say that negligence law, product liability law, these basic principles, will apply to gun companies. and that gun violence victims will have a right to their day in court, but to simply prove their case and say they're entitled to -- victims of newtown have a right to bring a case just like everyone else. that's very promising. it's very modest legislation. and i'm hopeful about it. i mean, it's got to get through the congress, obviously, but i am hopeful. >> talk about a special interest piece of legislation. your industry gets immunity from liability and nobody else does. it's just -- it's incredible this exists. jon lowy, director of the brady