have to keep on that march of progress, and we've come a long way even -- remember the 2004 election where state by state every state we went through we were dealing with anti-gay marriage battle initiatives. >> where one bill clinton allegedly told your then boss john kerry to support a federal marriage amendment, something that does not make it into his op etd ed. >> i was reading about the contemporaneous -- when the house passed the doma bill, a white house spokesperson whose name i didn't see in the story denounced it as gay-baiting. the president signed it anyway. that went to show his heart may have been in one place, and politically he was -- >> he was scared to be out of set with his constituents. >> thus he ties it up in a bow for us. we have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. as you teased at the top of the segment, you will be talking about this tomorrow. >> yep. >> so we are all tuning in tomorrow and every weekend right here on msnbc. 8:00 a.m. eastern. up with chris hayes, must see