down. do you think it would have made a difference if he started talking that way? >> yes. the fact that the republicans can say that in five years obama added five trillion to the national debt, that is an eye popping number, but that's because of the mess he inherited. i wrote a column saying how i learned to start loving trillion dollar deficits. it was the only way get us out of the hole with the collapse in demand that obama walked into. what's important about what ryan is doing and i criticized ryan before from the right. he has been falsely pedalling the idea that he is a fiscal conservative, but they don't balance in 30 or 40 years. if he lays down a budget, even with phony assumptions, he achieved balance on paper, i do think that will transform the debate and put obama on defense. >> you said that the reason for that is because it will put