here's whey say to get people to get a deal. you have to find something that everyone in washington really hates. if you top the come to a deal, a $1 trillion combo program and debt forgiveness program, that will get people to the table. if they don't come up with a deal as the government starts doing a correct hiring of people, half of it is hiring and half is debt forgiveness. the problem was, they thought search going to hate this so much they will come to the table, the republicans came to stop the defense cuts. >> you are talking about republicans winning. as a small government and libertarian-type, this is promising for someone like me who sees republicans. >> i think that's the big question. >> is it only a conserfative victory. you could make the argument that the sequestration cuts to