god the father commits you. >> aah! >> god the son commands you. >> aah! >> even 40 years later that's a haunting vision and call it a coincidence, divine intervention or something else but "the exorcism" is out today. >> whoa. >> less than 24 hours after the pope officially resigned. >> weird. >> coincidence? no. >> some believe right now with no pope in place the church is especially vulnerable to a great evil slipping in. in the guest spot today is dr. pena, associate professor who probably sizes in folklore and philosophy. thank you for joining e my. >> my pleasure. >> thank you. let me get this out for the viewers and some of us here at the table. how do i avoid being possessed by the devil? that's number one.