give state governments to start running elections? could they not come up with laws that would make it very cumbersome to disenfranchise people, disincentivize people to go out and even register? what about that? >> well, basically the reason we have section 5 is that these states were gaming the system. they would impose unconstitutional laws. >> sure. >> that would infringe voting. hen they were struck down. that would immediately pass another one. so the laws were all reactive. this made it proactive. it made the states come to the federal government to look at these types of plans. if you get rid of it, you return to that past system where you can have the sort of monty card game going on where you're not too sure where the laws are going to end up on voting -- on the day of voting. and we have seen a lot of these