between something being done by the cia and something done -- >> absolutely. different parts of the law. and more importantly, i will say this, the drone program has saved lives in this country. it has saved a lot of lives in our military. it is -- it's a program that has done great damage to al qaeda. and that's a very, very good thing. >> i don't think that is the controversial part of it. i think the controversial part of it is we seem to be waging war with part of our country that isn't designed to be accountable to us as civilians for war-making. >> and again, i think that's the important aspect of what the president said during the state of the union was to say, look, we are a democracy. we are a country that is bigger than any one person, regardless of who that president is. that president always has to be accountable to the people. that's the type of change that john was pushing for in that april speech. >> okay. so two questions come from that for me.