they can't come back this fall. >> we're not making this up, david, and we're not making this up in order to put pain on the american people. we are required to cut a billion dollars. >> senator coburn, is the president exaggerating the impact of these cuts? >> absolutely. it's a terrible way to cut spending. i don't disagree with that. but to not cut 2.5% out of the total budget over a year when it's twice the size it was ten years ago, give me a break. >> all right. joining us now from washington, democratic everyone goer from oregon, governor john kitzhaber. and here in new york, the director of the earth institute at columbia university, economist dr. jeffrey sachs. good to have you on board. we have chris mathews and david r ech remnick still with us. governor, the white house is certainly being accused strongly of fearmongering and scare tactics as it pertains to the sequester which i guess goes