folks in the burbs are vaguely pro-nra and have them come out and vote in a sprawling 16-person race. there's going to be low turnout and maybe you win with 16%, 17%, 18%. nevertheless is the fact you saw again this is clearly a fight obama is willing to wage in a big-time battle and behind him now is the x factor perhaps in this issue in american politics and that's michael bloomberg and he's willing to wage it even if he knows in his heart of hearts politically he can only win a quarter laugh or a half a loaf. >> let's go across the country to ron reagan. it seems to me this is a battle of geography. we know there are various parts of the country, idaho, montana, places where you're not going to get a gun safety vote. you're just not going to get one and that includes almost out to california itself. you on the coast, maybe western washington state, parts of oregon, but anywhere east of you guys, it's trouble for anybody trying to stop gun ownership. so my question is where does the president win the battle at least on background checks? something he can put on the wall and say we got this done? >> well, i think that he's winning the battle for the heart