because we know that in his writings, pope benedict had actually argued for a more traditional church, a more conservative church, and then a smaller church, believing that if you focus on what have been the traditional and core values, that the church will grow, in ways that it has in latin america and in africa. that in opposition to a lot of more western, european, americans who believe that the church has to be more open, has to at least consider a wider role for women in the church, perhaps married priests, no more celibate priests. is that what you think the battle will be? and will we get an indication when we see who the new pope is? >> i don't think it's quite that simple. it's not quite simple terms like conservative or liberal. it's a very nuanced concept, because the theology of the church and great catholic social teaching and its application to the third world are not necessarily antithetical to a modern papal and vatican