>> well, the challenge for the creative people and i was just talking to joe scarborough, it's a challenge. how do you look at the people way out there that don't feel confident in the democratic party and now the republican. you can't run these people because you're nuts. >> right. >> i don't think people want to vote for a party that wouldn't accept them as candidates. just get an old groucho marx line. >> if the republicans are going to start talking about their >> if the republicans are going to start talking about, you know, their party evolving, the basic start would be to believe in evolution. so when you don't -- >> i think you're picking a point here. >> but with this one saying evolution starts in the pits of hell. he has had four wives. he is on wife number four. >> many families. he has a lot of them. >> many, many families. and i just -- i don't understand. it's like the tone deafness.