some pretty bad stuff but what about the son? >> one thing that's interesting going back to john brennan and the hearings that will occur on thursday is on the one hand, he has been in a lot of ways architect of this policy, the man behind the drone strike policy. on the other hand, it is reported that he is also the sort of moral compass, he is the voice, the primary voice of restraint and has advocated for moving the drone strike policy from the cia more to the military and if it was under the us a passes of the military it would require greater transparency. of course, he's going to be there toeing the president's line, the administration's line. it will be interesting to see if there's hints of the desire to move it more to the military from the cia. >> we are in a post geographical war with people that don't wear uniforms. if we don't attack them in the -- >> no one doesn't want to attack them. >> where are the limits? it has to be somebody part of al