into bingo, these are candidates which i got to tell you, a 70-year-old hillary clinton would have a real challenge with. >> pamela harris is incredible. within her own party, people are coming up. who knows where they are going to be in four years. who knew where barack obama was going to be in four years. you have people. you have elizabeth warren. you have hawaii. you have tammy baldwin. [ inaudible ] >> i don't know if he's going to come for her. none of those people has what hillary has. one word, universal name id. you know how expensive it is to buy name identity? >> hillary clinton had a lot of name recognition when she got beat by a guy who beat her with