citizenship. but do you think that his powerful voice and also as a republican rising star, will push conservative members of the party to make concessions on that point? those that want to see border patrols and border security being the first thing as opposed to a path to citizenship for the millions of americans that exist in the country currently? >> well, i think that you can do those things simultaneously. you can continue to secure the border. remember that this president has committed more resources and more man power to the border than any president in american history. there's 652 miles of barrier, over $100 million has been leveed in fines against businesses that hire undocumented workers. we've got 21,000 border patrol agents along the border. that's more than the 10,000 we had when president bush was re-elected in 2004. so the fact is, we're doing border security. this president has done it aggressively, and now it's time that we do that, but that we also put people along the path to citizenship. >> msnbc policy analyst ezra