in many ways, the number majority is affected by the attempt, by the scheme. >> reverend, you're in town tonight for the wall street project. tell us about this economic summit. >> well, in part, i'm convinced that beyond this argument by fiscal cliff and the issue that is there about debt limit is how are we going rebuild america. there are billions of trillion of billions of pension fund money. some sort of infrastructure development bank that maybe if you cut a deal, they bring back some of the money for the purpose of reinvesting in such a bank, you can rebuild. because the banks that destroyed and manipulated, they're not going to -- they're not going to green line the red line zones. president clinton will speak to us on this coming thursday. >> so a special bank, a special fund that would be dedicated to infrastructure and jobs? >> and based upon target, maybe appalachian, maybe in the city.