and lastly, government programs. president obama took a shot at republicans when he said this about entitlements. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not zap our initiative. they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> i'll take that poll. the public's predominantly in favor here. when we polled on medicare, 54% said it only needed minor modifications if anything. joining us david corn and michael scherer. gentlemen, thank you. i didn't know this until you put it all together. i have a sense that on the right if you're a moderate positions like these polls say, you're considered a liberal.