president, when the president is, you know, tasked with being, you know, the chief of the executive branch of the government. this is entirely different than people who lead ordinary lives. >> and it also brings attention, you would argue, to the children at the very time when we are trying to avoid, other than at inaugurals and moments like that where they are on the public stage, but there's an unwritten agreement to stay away from the kids and to let them have their soccer matches and their schools and stay as far away as possible and let them grow up as normal children. >> i think this is really important. we talk about how we value freedom, even the nra talks about their freedom, but nobody talks about the people that sacrifice theirs for the public good, and that is certainly the case of any first family or even families of members of congress or others who serve their government. and so i think we really have to put all that aside and talk about the real issues that are at play here.