>> that's the difficulty in passing any form of legislation is that you are doing a national legislation for a problem that has different pockets of resistance. >> right. >> and so what's promising, optimism for the president, is that some of his reforms that he suggested are incredibly -- are incredibly testing well many polls. 92% for back ground checks. has neglect -- have you guys ever seen anything polling 92% ever? >> longer recess and soda in the water fountains. >> you didn't mention uniforms. >> the question comes do you do this piecemeal? do you take stuff that polls well and put it out for a vote ask get that stuff pass and do the harder stuff later, or do you do it comprehensively and hope you can get one big package passed on? >> i don't have anything against frank. >> frank rich, we don't have anything against you. >> if you want to get this done, and i do, and the president does, i'm just talking about how you do it without antagonizing. there are skeptical democrats, as you well know. you will find one-third of democrats who will have some