of immigrants entering the united states. joining the panel now is the new yorker's nick baumgartem. i read the names of those scintillating sim posa, and i wonder as we talk about the gop 2.0 or 7.0 or whatever it rags you choose to believe this is, are you convinced that this is anything more than rhetoric? i really don't mean to be baiting the witness. do you believe that the gop wants to change, can change, will change? >> it really does sound like some cross between davos in detox. >> i think it probably is just that. >> you use the word rehab, and like davos or rehab, it will have as much chance of working as either of those two things. i think they're just going to talk and talk and talk. no matter how much they talk, they're not going to change the essential way they go about business. if they make a promise to behave