this tragedy to be the same short flurry of attention that we are used to followed by the same long-term nothing that we are used to. i sat down today with david and francine wheeler, who lost one of their two sons, 6-year-old ben at sandy hook. >> there's been a lot of focus from newtown united, which is now sandy hook promise on the process of not rushing, not taking political stands, not giving thumbs-up or thumbs-down to any policies that are debating. meanwhile, policy debate is moving fast. how do you two feel about that, that emphasis on process on the conversation on being deliberate, slow about it? >> well, we have to do this. and i say we casually, because, you know, i'm -- i should assume now that i'm part of this group, i suppose. i think that's safe to say. but the core members and the executive group, they feel very, very strongly that this approach that they take has to be different. you heard tim makris say it, that it can't be the same thing that has done in the past because it hasn't worked. it hasn't worked. so the policy debate may move quickly, but we all know that legislation does not move quickly. and we know that government doesn't move quickly. and we know that culture and