>> it's a bargaining chip. >> that you don't -- there's a certain amount of america bashing that we'll tolerate. he needs to survive. he can't survive without troops. those troops are there to prevent an overthrow of the kabul government after we draw down. >> we talk about his plans for trying to dictate who his successor is since he is term limited. what are the choices? >> i think any analyst will have to assume that no matter what he says, his successor who comes in will largely be a proxy of karzai. i think we'll be looking at putin, medvedev situation. >> he was mentioning grover and defense spending. i still remember -- i remember we talked about this frequently when it happened. haley barbour, not exactly a radical in the republican party, saying we may -- this was when he was thinking about maybe running for president and sort of testing the waters, so it was a few years back, but saying